Several days ago, I participated in an online homeschooling event. This event was hosted by a website and included speakers on a variety of homeschooling topics via streaming audio. There was a chatroom for listeners to be able to chat to each other and type questions for the host and speaker. I am not going to mention the name of the website because quite honestly, I do not feel the need to give them any publicity. Read on and you will see why.
The host was a Christian homeschooling site. I still decided to attend because I had been told that most of the information would be good for a secular homeschooler as well. For some of the speakers, that was true while for others, the talk of religion was mildly annoying. For a few, the religious indoctrination of the talk was just too much for any academic homeschooler to bear.
One of the last speakers of the event talked about reasons people homeschool and what motivates them to keep going. He said homeschooling is a conviction for a few and a preference for others. To be honest, I should have stopped listening about two minutes into his talk. His manner of speaking was already bordering on religious fanatic – you know the type, the ones that make others think that all homeschooling families are right-wing, religious, nutjobs. Yup, that was this guy.
I decided to approach the session from an academic standpoint. I wanted to learn the reasoning behind thinking that religious instruction must be included in homeschooling. An academic mind like me could remove her personal beliefs and discover this reasoning without being offended, right? Well one would think, but you know it gets a little difficult when non-religious homeschoolers are constantly being degraded during the discussion. Let’s just hit a few of the gems this speaker bestowed upon the listeners……
Speaker: Anyone can teach 2+2=4, only Christian homeschoolers can explain why.
He was referring to evolution and chaos theory when he said this. He said if you teach evolution, the world is chaos and has no order. Therefore, if you teach evolution you don’t understand that the world is an orderly place. Instead you see the world as a chaotic environment without patterns. This results in no way to teach the orderly patterns of mathematics. A Christian homeschooler understands that 2+2=4 because God made it that way.
Heathen Mom Response: What the hell? I’m sorry, but what does simple addition have to do with religion? My three year old understands the equation 2+2=4 because of the example, “if you have two apples and I give you two more, how many will you have?” She happily counts up to four and is very proud to find the correct answer. She didn’t need the explanation that God made it that way. She would probably look at me like I was insane if I said that.
Speaker: secular, humanist, atheist worldview
He used this phrase a lot, like too much. He used it to describe public school education and anyone who doesn’t homeschool from a religious view. He used it as a degrading phrase.
Heathen Mom Response: Please find a thesaurus before your next speaking engagement. You sound like a man with limited vocabulary when you have to use the same words over and over. Those words are not negative – so a little less attitude and disgust when you say them are in order.
Speaker: If you aren’t using a religious view you might as well send your children to public school. It would be easier for you.
This was in response to a comment that I made in the chatroom. I pointed out that many people homeschool for academic and not religious reasons.
Heathen Mom Response: There are many more academic opportunities that are available to my children as homeschoolers. I choose to homeschool to allow my children to reach their potential. My goal for homeschooling is to help my children be at a level that allows them to be successful in college and encourages them to be lifelong learners.
Speaker: Academic success should not be the goal of homeschooling. Creating servants for God should be.
He talked a lot about what the purpose of homeschooling should be. He felt the only reason to homeschool was for religious reasons and nothing should be taught that goes against religious viewpoints. He felt that learning without God resulted in just useless facts and the only true learning was biblically based.
Heathen Mom Response: I pointed out that some students who were only taught from a biblical point of view can have a harder time in some college courses. Refusing to expose children to academic subjects can place them behind their peers. A good example is the theory of evolution. I have seen college students who were only taught ways to disprove evolution, biblically of course, become upset that they don’t have a true understanding of what the theory of evolution really is.
The speaker talked about the number of religious students who lose their faith as a result of attending a “secular, humanist, atheist worldview liberal college”. I wonder what percentage of those students who abandon their religious upbringing were ones who were only allowed to learn things from a biblical point of view? My hypothesis is that percentage is high. I understand that attending college exposes you to a lot of new material and viewpoints. That is actually one of my favorite things about college. I would assume that if you were always taught things from a biblical point of view, attending a non-religious college would be a bit of culture shock. I can see how that could lead to questioning faith and even possibly leaving the religious beliefs behind. It could seem like you were lied to by not being allowed to learn other viewpoints.
Speaker: You are leading your children to hell if you don’t use a religious view for homeschooling.
Heathen Mom Response: I am going to be honest; this is the point of the speech that just completely pissed me off.
It is closed-minded thinking like this that resulted in me naming my blog Heathen Homeschoolers. It amazes me that so many religious homeschoolers feel the need to condemn all of those who choose to use a secular point of view. The fact that ‘secular’ is often used as a “dirty” word infuriates me.
Despite what many religious homeschool proponents will have you believe, the number of families using a secular approach is growing. A Heathen Homeschooler uses a secular/academic approach to homeschooling. I would love to see the number of Heathens grow dramatically over the next few years. It is time for the religious nutjobs who think they are the face of homeschooling to understand that they do not represent all homeschoolers.
I am Heathen Mom. I am proud to homeschool my children using a secular approach. We focus on academic instruction and feel that religious instruction has no place in academic studies. We feel that if a family chooses to incorporate religious instruction it should be in addition to academic studies.
My family is not unique.
There are Heathens everywhere.








This is a great post. As a heathen homeschooler (because teaching a toddler letters, numbers and phonics counts as homeschooling) who is a pagan to boot, I find the Christian focus in homschooling materials to be disturbing. Not because I am opposed to Christianity, but because I think religious studies are useful when provided as a broad view of many different religions and cultures. If I teach my son my pagan views, I will also teach him Christianity, Judaism, Muslim, and Eastern Religions as well. How can we expect our children to succeed in a rapidly shrinking world if we tie their hands spiritually? How can the communicate effectively with other people if they believe those people are being damned to hell?
::gag::
I have run into people like that more times than I care to remember.
Common sense isn’t part of their world view.
Sad.
Losing faith only means that the person is able to consider other world views. Not good news for the offering plates of the church, but inevitable.
There are many of us “Heathens” out here and PROUD OF IT.
I am a Christian Mom.
My reasons for homeschooling are purely academic.
Please please please know that not all Christians are like that speaker.
Oh yeah – I hope you didn’t waste too much money on that.
My husband’s cousin’s wife is like this and it drives me insane. It shouldn’t surprise me considering this is the woman that also told me she’d take my kids and raise them properly because I am not a Christian.
My kids would not be in the same room with that nutjob! The things people say just really amazes me.
I know not everyone acts that way. I am just amazed at the number of closed-minded individuals there are in the world.
I did pay to attend the online event. I’m glad I didn’t pay more.
YEAH! Another heathen! As I like to say “Be a Heathen!”
Um…just WOW! It scares me that there are such deluded and closed minded people in the world in this day & age. Glad it didn’t cost you a fortune at least
It would have been terribly hard not to ‘leave’ the event just to keep him from having the satisfaction!
It is sad that people honestly think things like that.
I know we are not the only ones to use an academic approach to homeschooling – many of my readers are heathens just like my family!
I am just very vocal and find myself advocating homeschooling from a secular point of view more and more.
Cough/gag!
My MIL was Wiccan and homeschooled her dyslexic kids because she was dyslexic and could help them when it was too much for the schools.
What an unhealthy attitude to instill in one’s children. It makes me very sad that closing a young mind is often confused with “education”.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with religion (only the implementation); I worry when it becomes the platform for promoting intolerance and ignorance.
I too homeschool from a non religious stand point. I do not teach religion doctrine, to my children, that is what the church is for. We do teach manners, kindness, morals, and other basics that will make them good, honest people. We do have friends that teach solely from a religious stand point, and it is really a choice of preference. I hope you emailed, or left feedback to that speaker, because I find them to be very narrow minded, and ignorant actually.
We are secular homeschooling also – I agree with your reasoning totally that religion and academics are not innately intertwined and, in fact, they should be separate. It’s been interesting since we started on our homeschooling journey that the fanatics like this speaker essentially shut down an enormous part of the conversation on homeschooling. I don’t emphasize my secular-ness and I don’t deride those who do homeschool for religious reasons. I’d like to see more open, honest dialogue about homeschooling as an activity and philosophy separate from the fanaticism. As I’ve tried to undertake this gargantuan feat, however, I can tell you that these conversations are few and far between. We all have so much to learn from each other – I wish folks (like this speaker) could open themselves up to this idea.
I am sick of ‘spouting Christians’. I am a non-church goer,and I have performed more Christian acts in my life than many of my church going friends. I was a sunday school teacher, but learned the world is more interesting if I step out and meet others with different views.I am a better person for it.I am not guided by the bible,I threw it away and now I am free to use the mind I was given.I brought my 3 up and they had their choices. They chose not to follow a ‘sect’, but to do good where they can in their own way. I am proud to say 3 good people live in the world, all went to University and can converse with anyone they come across, from child to adult. They would help another when in need, THAT is what educating your child is all about.
Good for you doing it your way.
I totally agree with you! I don’t see this as a us vs them situation. I think all homeschoolers should consider themselves to be on the same side – doing what is best for the education of their children.
I would never berate someone who homeschools for religious reasons, I just ask that the same respect be extended to those of us who don’t. I am very active in a local homeschool group. The majority of the group use religious materials in their day-to-day schooling. I don’t hide the fact that we believe that academics and religious studies should not be combined. This irritates some of the moms. It is like they think their reasons for homeschooling are the only correct ones. When we first started attending group events I wasn’t sure how long we would continue. Now, I don’t see us quitting anytime soon. I have seen other moms in the group open up about their secular homeschooling beliefs as well. I really think our group just needed a vocal person like me to make some of the closet heathen homeschoolers come out into the open.
The funniest part of this is the bit about losing their faith upon entrance into college. I would lose my faith too if I found out that the teachers of my faith had been lying and withholding information in order to keep me faithful!
One thing should be noted is that not all Christians, homeschooling or otherwise, are biblical literalists. We were briefly part of a Catholic group that had mainly people homeschooling for the same reasons as we do, for academic appropriateness and the avoidance of the negative social elements of public school.
CAUTION NOT FOR LITTLE EYES
Funny quote from my secularly home schooled son.
Him: Mom, they don’t really exist, do they?
Me: Who don’t exist, honey?
Him: The tooth fairy, Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, God?
This will be my first year of homeschooling. My husband and I have been somewhat hesitant until now because all we heard about were “uber” Christians that couldn’t form a lesson plan without their Bibles. We are Christian. We do not believe that education and religion should be intermingled. I’ve had an interesting time finding curriculum that does not have religion ingrained in it. I think that the decision to teach our children at home is a personal one and one that is not to be taken lightly, nor is that personal reason to be shoved down someone else’s throat.
Just my two cents.
You are singing to the choir around here.
Welcome to the world of homeschooling. Enjoy the adventure and welcome to Heathen Homeschoolers!
Your caution should have also said, put your drink down….I about spewed drink all over my poor laptop, lol!
If I didn’t think I’d commit a felony homeschooling my kids I’d do it because of the value you speak of. Keep speaking. Your voice is mine and many others. Thank you.
Okay, I’m a Christian guy, proud of it, and I’m disgusted. Not by you “Heathen moms”, but because of the horrible name this speaker has given to Christians. You do NOT have to have religious reasons to homeschool your child. It’s just a popular reason. Truthfully, I’d like to have the academic opportunities of home-school in public school. I’m that kid that passes with flying colors, lowest grade being a 97. But does it really matter? In my opinion, just forget this guy, please! I ask that you don’t judge all Christians based on his actions. I’ll say as a fellow Christian, he took a much too judgmental path in this. Just don’t judge Christians based on him, please! We’re not anything like that if we’re genuine. I’d be glad to let you know what we are like. But please don’t stereotype, and good luck with the home-schooling, I might add.
Thanks for your reply. I always find it amusing though when people assume certain things about my religious beliefs because we do not homeschool for religious reasons. It’s funny when people respond in a way that seems that they are making assumptions about my faith or perceived lack of faith.
Trust me when I say that I in no way stereotype Christians. I don’t really need to be told what Christians are like. Please don’t assume that I have no experience with religion.